Comments on: Radicalis: Radically Compromising Perry Noble http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/ Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:26:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Friendliness or Grumpiness? - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-32503 Friendliness or Grumpiness? - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:16:00 +0000 http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-32503 [...] Originally Posted by Slepsog4 Congregations often reflect the personality of their primary leader. If the preaching minister is impersonal or cold it can affect the rest. YOU MEAN LIKE THIS? The upcoming Radicalis conference scheduled to take place at Rick Warren?s Saddleback Church, February 9-12, will include speakers Rick Warren, his ministry team, and what is shaping up to be a line-up of, well, the usual suspects for apostasy. One headliner is Perry Noble, Senior Pastor of New Spring Church where there are 10,000 members. The arduous chore of pastoring such a large crowd means that sacrifices must be made, but not by the pastor. Noble explained some of the sacrifices members must be prepared to make in a video-clip retrieved from YouTube, in which Noble explained: ?We have people coming to this church, going: ?I want a church where I can know the pastor.?? Noble?s admonishment to those people was: ?You need to leave. I don?t have time.?1 The factor of time in such a large church certainly plays a role in how often a pastor can meet with the sheep, but Noble has a larger problem with shepherding. He went on to explain in the video: ?I love my wife, and I love my kids, and I will not sacrifice my family on the ministry altar so I can come eat food that I won?t like, and hang out with people who make me feel uncomfortable.?2 Clearly, Noble does not like the sheep, and even finds them repugnant (and seems to possess a prejudice that Christians possess no culinary art). Noble is simply not going to sacrifice as a pastor, or be troubled by ministry, and he is ?dead serious? about it.3 To prove that point, Noble also informed members that they better be prepared to tough it on their own in sickness and disease. Addressing the idea that he should visit members in the hospital, Noble clarified that his visits to the sick were strictly limited to a last-rites scenario of seeing a person just prior to them expiring, or as Noble delicately phrased it: ?The guy behind me has the bag you?re leaving the room in.?4 Why Nobel would visit the sick at this juncture, and not in the intervening time for prayer and the laying on of hands for the sick to recover, might be further affirmation of how little he really cares about them; unless he somehow believes he really is empowered with special authority to ensure transition from earth to heaven for the dying. A church of 10,000 is far too large for a pastor who can only find room in his heart to love his wife and kids, and not the sheep, but it is the perfect situation for a hireling, a stark contrast from a true shepherd:I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. (Joh 10:11-13) The News Beats ? Blog Archive ? Radicalis: Radically Compromising Perry Noble [...] [...] Originally Posted by Slepsog4 Congregations often reflect the personality of their primary leader. If the preaching minister is impersonal or cold it can affect the rest. YOU MEAN LIKE THIS? The upcoming Radicalis conference scheduled to take place at Rick Warren?s Saddleback Church, February 9-12, will include speakers Rick Warren, his ministry team, and what is shaping up to be a line-up of, well, the usual suspects for apostasy. One headliner is Perry Noble, Senior Pastor of New Spring Church where there are 10,000 members. The arduous chore of pastoring such a large crowd means that sacrifices must be made, but not by the pastor. Noble explained some of the sacrifices members must be prepared to make in a video-clip retrieved from YouTube, in which Noble explained: ?We have people coming to this church, going: ?I want a church where I can know the pastor.?? Noble?s admonishment to those people was: ?You need to leave. I don?t have time.?1 The factor of time in such a large church certainly plays a role in how often a pastor can meet with the sheep, but Noble has a larger problem with shepherding. He went on to explain in the video: ?I love my wife, and I love my kids, and I will not sacrifice my family on the ministry altar so I can come eat food that I won?t like, and hang out with people who make me feel uncomfortable.?2 Clearly, Noble does not like the sheep, and even finds them repugnant (and seems to possess a prejudice that Christians possess no culinary art). Noble is simply not going to sacrifice as a pastor, or be troubled by ministry, and he is ?dead serious? about it.3 To prove that point, Noble also informed members that they better be prepared to tough it on their own in sickness and disease. Addressing the idea that he should visit members in the hospital, Noble clarified that his visits to the sick were strictly limited to a last-rites scenario of seeing a person just prior to them expiring, or as Noble delicately phrased it: ?The guy behind me has the bag you?re leaving the room in.?4 Why Nobel would visit the sick at this juncture, and not in the intervening time for prayer and the laying on of hands for the sick to recover, might be further affirmation of how little he really cares about them; unless he somehow believes he really is empowered with special authority to ensure transition from earth to heaven for the dying. A church of 10,000 is far too large for a pastor who can only find room in his heart to love his wife and kids, and not the sheep, but it is the perfect situation for a hireling, a stark contrast from a true shepherd:I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. (Joh 10:11-13) The News Beats ? Blog Archive ? Radicalis: Radically Compromising Perry Noble [...]

]]> By: MRWBBIII http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-25421 MRWBBIII Sat, 27 Mar 2010 07:58:58 +0000 http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-25421 EMERGENT CHURCH HERETIC SERMON JAM PERRY NOBLE ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkDAleCCm2Q EMERGENT CHURCH HERETIC SERMON JAM PERRY NOBLE !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkDAleCCm2Q

]]> By: MRWBBIII http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-32501 MRWBBIII Sat, 27 Mar 2010 07:58:58 +0000 http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-32501 EMERGENT CHURCH HERETIC SERMON JAM PERRY NOBLE ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkDAleCCm2Q EMERGENT CHURCH HERETIC SERMON JAM PERRY NOBLE !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkDAleCCm2Q

]]> By: Aaron Marcelli http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-24782 Aaron Marcelli Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:17:47 +0000 http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-24782 I question some of your quotes because Perry does not have "kids", he has one child. You conveniently leave out many things, such as his promise that if anyone from the church goes to the hospital, someone WILL come visit them. He just says it won't be him. That would be like asking the CEO of Walmart to read all the comment cards. Also, the $1,500 paid for his sessions with other pastors is made out to the church and goes to their budget, not Noble's pockets. I question some of your quotes because Perry does not have “kids”, he has one child. You conveniently leave out many things, such as his promise that if anyone from the church goes to the hospital, someone WILL come visit them. He just says it won’t be him. That would be like asking the CEO of Walmart to read all the comment cards. Also, the $1,500 paid for his sessions with other pastors is made out to the church and goes to their budget, not Noble’s pockets.

]]> By: Aaron Marcelli http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-32500 Aaron Marcelli Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:17:47 +0000 http://www.thenewsbeats.com/2010/01/14/radicalis-radically-compromising-perry-noble/#comment-32500 I question some of your quotes because Perry does not have "kids", he has one child. You conveniently leave out many things, such as his promise that if anyone from the church goes to the hospital, someone WILL come visit them. He just says it won't be him. That would be like asking the CEO of Walmart to read all the comment cards. Also, the $1,500 paid for his sessions with other pastors is made out to the church and goes to their budget, not Noble's pockets. I question some of your quotes because Perry does not have “kids”, he has one child. You conveniently leave out many things, such as his promise that if anyone from the church goes to the hospital, someone WILL come visit them. He just says it won’t be him. That would be like asking the CEO of Walmart to read all the comment cards. Also, the $1,500 paid for his sessions with other pastors is made out to the church and goes to their budget, not Noble’s pockets.

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